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babystuffRus

Thank you, both of you, for continuing with this. It is greatly appreciated by those of us who knows very little about the quality or how rare a gem is. A question: if a gem is very rare, would that influence the gem's worth - make it more sought after and thus more expensive? Thanks again, Elna

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Gem Shop

always a matter of supply and demand...some gems although rare does not get high prices due to the fact that its not "popular" I collect rare gems just because they are rare and not because they are expensive. I never buy a gem for my own collection based on value but I base my purchase on how a particular gem "speak" to me...I have rubies in my collection less than .5 ct that are more beautiful than one much bigger.

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motherearth

hi, it is good to see this post running again, and many thanks should be given to Gem Shop and Lukeness.

 

However, I must politely take issue with Gem Shop's link to the Burmese Ruby below.

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8460429/NATURAL_MOGOK_BURMA_RUBY_2_74CTS_GORGEOUS_APPRAISAL_R119200_00_VALUE.html

 

I think, if we are going to offer advise to customers to help them purchase safely on BOB then caution should be used. Below the link you quote " good value if real". It is my opinion that it is not Burmese,and this opinion is based on the following:

 

1. Burmese Rubies especially from Mogok do not look like what is shown in the photographs.What is shown in the photographs is a typical fracture filled African stone.

 

2. and the most important point is price!!..Like there are no cheap Diamonds, there are also no cheap Burmese Rubies, especially in the quality displayed., there are no exceptions!period! Mogok Rubies are the most expensive stones on the planet, with the exception of some coloured Diamonds. A 2.74 ct Mogok Ruby in the quality shown could be sold to any serious dealer in the World for $5000 US + , and it would be an instant cash sale.

 

A little over 2 months ago, a high percentage of Rubies sold on BOB, were being listed as Burmese/Mogok, since the above points have been highlighted in this Forum, it is no longer the case! coincidence?

 

The biggest lesson anyone can learn regarding the purchase of gemstones is to seriously think before you buy! always remember that if something "looks too good to be true" , then you can guarantee it is!!

 

regards Jeff.

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Gem Shop

I did not post my choice to make liars out of people and based my opinion on the following statement from the seller.

 

This is a message to other sellers on BoB who cannot get their hands on Mogok Burma rubies: I have just returned from abroad with a number of these rubies that I hand selected for my buyers. You are welcome to bid and buy them too if you like and have them checked out for yourself!

 

Obviously this guy would not mind if you have the ruby tested.

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motherearth

Hello Gem Shop,

 

Firstly let's cool this down or the powers that be will start deleting posts again!

 

I am not calling anyone a liar, I am just stating facts.

I believe the object of this forum is to try and educate people and not to promote sales, this particular post is a good one and can help people who do not have too much knowledge regarding stones.

I have lived in Thailand for the past 8 years and work daily with gemstones, it is my profession and I know what I am talking about when it comes to Rubies! I look at more stones in a single day than most people will see in a lifetime!

I have just spent a week in Burma trying to buy Rubies and Sapphires, that means sitting at the markets daily and viewing hundreds of stones. I know the prices.

I am not here in anyway to promote my sales, my knowledge has come from working in the field for many years. I am prepared to share this knowledge with anyone who cares to listen, and be assured if I was in anyway unsure regarding any gemstone issue, then I would not comment.

 

regards Jeff

 

PS

 

Thought I'd add a few myself

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8259514/JUST_JEWELS_TOP_COLECTORS_PINK_TOURMALINE_7_64_Ct.html

at the current price, this is a real bargain!!... nice cut and colour!! ... big size!

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8259670/JUST_JEWELS_STUNNING_COLLECTORS_PINK_SPINEL_1_14_Ct.html

a little windowed but fantastic colour....Spinel is the hot stone at the moment, prices are soaring, even for small stones like this

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8245619/24GEMS_LARGE_9_24CTS_RED_MOZAMBIQUE_GARNET.html

nice big size Garnet, these Mozambique stones really do glow!!

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8470228/AAA_BRIGHT_APPLE_GREEN_COLUMBIAN_EMERALD_3_620CTS_VALUE_R86232_00.html

Photo a bit blurry but possible bargain, it looks Colombian and nice colour

 

take care Jeff

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Lukeness
Thank you, both of you, for continuing with this. It is greatly appreciated by those of us who knows very little about the quality or how rare a gem is. A question: if a gem is very rare, would that influence the gem's worth - make it more sought after and thus more expensive? Thanks again, Elna

 

There are various factors that contribute to a gems marketable value. Rarity is one of them. However, many rare stones are just too unknown to have built up a following and prices are often not as high. That said, they are also usually snapped up quickly by collectors. The stones durability is also a major factor: Rare stones that are too soft or brittle for jewellery lose out in value. Lastly, rarity doesn't help an ugly gem. Lol.

 

gem shop and motherearth:

 

I can see why the gem was listed based on the details furnished by the seller. However, I must stress that sellers should be wary of what they are told at gem markets. Based on the picture (which is admittedly not great) I would say that it indicates possible diffusion (dark blue dots) and the veil-like inclusions (if the pic is accurate) could indicate flux healing and possible fracture filling. There is a small possibility that it is from Burma, but is so then it would most likely be from Hmong Su, not Mogok. That said, it is not at all what I would expect it to look like from either location. Yes, there are low grade rubies from Burma, but even those are not bargains. ALSO, if a seller has gone to all the trouble of travelling to source such illusive stones it would be easy and more than worthwhile to have got certificates from GRS or AIGS in Thailand for very reasonable pricing and sell the stone for many times what it could get here.

 

Clarity: VS2 - SI1 is also something of a stretch.

 

Any input from the seller would be great here. As I've said, these observations are based on the pictures supplied and are in no way concrete facts.

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my choice for the crazy Friday sale this week

Unfortunately I liked 2 gems but with the one I cannot decide whether the photo on the add is that of the gem as it looks too large for such a small stone so I only have one other choice although a bit overvalued I think this is a really nice gem and could make a beautiful piece of jewellery

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8486675/FABULOUS_A_3_ct_PEAR_SHAPE_PLATINUM_PINK_NATURAL_KUNZITE_GEMSTONE.html

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Lukeness

Great colour!

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My choices on this weeks Wednesday sale

The pickings are a bit thin again this week but If I have to choose a beauty is has to be this:

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8346999/BRIGHTER_THAN_A_DIAMOND_1_45CTS_FLAWLESS_NATURAL_MORGANITE.html

Most confusing listing

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8558695/AAA_BRILLIANT_RICH_HOT_PINK_CEYLON_SAPPHIRE_5_400CTS_Value_R118289_00_HIGH_VALUE_ITEM.html

I will never understand the valuation system of this seller

Here is something no serious buyer or seller should be without.

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8519546/High_Accuracy_Digital_Calliper_with_LCD_BRAND_NEW.html

Happy Bidding

Just a silly question...Is this also Gemsearch aka Tanzanites ..I had a look at the ratings and some people call them gemsearched?

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/userprofile/UserProfile.jsp?User_UserId=436219

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Lukeness

CERTIFIED 0.93ct NATURAL COLOUR CHANGE SAPPHIRE UNHEATED - 24Gems

 

More colour shift than change but still great.

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9440211/24GEMS_CERTIFIED_0_93ct_NATURAL_COLOUR_CHANGE_SAPPHIRE_UNHEATED.html

 

 

4.79 cts Blood Red Madagascar Ruby Gemstone - Gems Direct

 

A real beaut, regardless of the treatment the size and beaty of this stone make it a real prize.

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9280053/STUNNING_4_79_cts_Blood_Red_Madagascar_Ruby_Gemstone_100_Money_back_guarantee.html

 

COLUMBIAN - .38ct - FOREST GREEN EMERALD - motherearth

Oh my... What a colour. Beautiful stone.

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9536663/EXCELLENT_COLUMBIAN_38ct_FOREST_GREEN_EMERALD.html

 

SPINEL - BLOOD RED TRILLIANT - 2.07cts - REDHAWK

 

Very dark, but still great. Possible good candidate for a profitable re-cut.

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9380938/SPINEL_DARK_RED_ROUND_FACET_2_07cts.html

INDICOLITE TOURMALINE - 100% NATURAL - motherearth

 

Paraiba eat your heart out!! Check out these FANTASTIC stones!

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9627443/1_23ct_GORGEOUS_INDICOLITE_TOURMALINE_100_NATURAL_GEMSTONE.html

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9627384/GORGEOUS_INDICOLITE_TOURMALINE_100_NATURAL_GEMSTONE.html

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9627378/1_25ct_GORGEOUS_INDICOLITE_TOURMALINE_100_NATURAL_GEMSTONE.html

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9627238/3_27ct_GORGEOUS_INDICOLITE_TOURMALINE_100_NATURAL_GEMSTONE.html

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Lukeness

Updated with 7 more stones, so far.

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Dumble

Thanks a lot for your suggestions, it is much appreciated by newbies like me.... :lol: I don't mind buying an expensive stone if I know it is going to be an investment but at the moment I won't bid too much because I might be paying over the odds

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Lukeness

:D:D:D

 

You're more than welcome to post any queries you have regarding listings in the gem section or PM me if you prefer to do so.

There are a lot of pitfalls and sometimes questionable items BUT there are also plenty of bargains available.

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Dumble

I think I have bought a lot of questionable items but I also think I have bought a few nice ones too. Shame you can't indicate your opinion of the value. I suppose if you pointed out the bargains everyone would bid on them and they wouldn't be bargains in the end :!: Or you would buy them for yourself :wink:

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Shame you can't indicate your opinion of the value. I suppose if you pointed out the bargains everyone would bid on them and they wouldn't be bargains in the end Exclamation Or you would buy them for yourself

 

I wouldn't like to comment on the values as there are too many factors to be considered to give an host value. If I post stones on these lists then unless I say so, I do consider them bargains.

:)

 

 

Best of the Crazy Wednesday's closing shortly so bid fast...

 

No time to do descriptions (or you'd lose more bidding time!).

Some GREAT potential last-minute buys this week.

 

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9717157/SUPER_STUNNING_CERTIFIED_AAA_1_23CT_D_BLOCK_TANZANITE_COLLECTORS_PIECE.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9722485/7_18_CT_PINK_KUNZITE.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9722471/MAGNIFICENT_1_36_CT_COBALT_BLUE_SAPPHIRE.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9727764/GemDeals_EGL_CERTIFIED_1_08_CT_BLUE_SAPPHIRE.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9727776/GemDeals_EGL_CERTIFIED_0_883CT_REDDISH_PINK_RUBY.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9727773/GemDeals_EGL_CERTIFIED_1_015_LIGHT_VIOLET_BLUE_SAPPHIRE.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9713720/1_25_CT_NATURAL_PINKISH_RED_RHODOLITE_GARNET_GEM_FROM_MADAGASCAR.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9716216/HIGH_VALUE_GEM_COLLECTION_TOTAL_WEIGHT_11_00_CTS_NOT_TO_BE_MISSED.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9626775/12_27_CARAT_INTENSE_PURPLE_AMETHYST.html

 

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/9712627/18K_SOLID_WHITE_GOLD_TSAVORITE_AND_DIAMOND_RING_1_500CTS_VALUE_R28676_00.html

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Lukeness

This is one of the best stones I've seen on Bid or Buy in months!

1.12 CT NATURAL COLOUR CHANGE DIASPORE

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/11237382/EXOTIC_AND_RARE_1_12_CT_NATURAL_COLOUR_CHANGE_DIASPORE.html

 

One of the most elusive and collectible stones you'll find. It's a fantastic investment stone and just gorgeous.

 

22.58ct Genuine Top Blood Red RUBY

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/11150350/MINDBLOWING_22_58ct_Genuine_Top_Blood_Red_RUBY.html

 

This giant of a stone is still going for a small fraction of it's retail value and anyone paying less than 10 grand would be getting the bargain of a lifetime!

 

LAB CERTIFIED 0.94 CT NEON RUBY RED MOGOK SPINEL

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/11079085/LAB_CERTIFIED_0_94_CT_NEON_RUBY_RED_MOGOK_SPINAL.html

 

Not much time left so get your bids in quickly to grab this certified beauty at a real giveaway price!

 

 

Aquamarine 1.50ct Oval

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/11339778/Aquamarine_1_50ct_Oval_Sargasso_Sea_Green.html

 

The colour makes me suspect that this stone is probably not actually treated. Great aqua seafoam green.

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