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1926 6p - please assist with grading

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KahlilG

All,

 

I am sorting some coins that will be sent for grading later this month. Attached is a photo of a 1926 6P that I am not sure about. Given current grading costs, and the low market value of AU coins I don't want to send coins for grading that will not grade MS.

 

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jwither

Looks to me like your coins has some light wear on the headband, where the diamonds are located. If this is correct, it shouldn't grade MS. What I would do if I were you is to have someone you trust inspect it directly because I could be wrong.

 

Also, it looks like your coin could use conservation. If so, this could result in a better (though in my opinion still AU grade) but also increase the cost.

 

On the 1924 6D in your other post, I didn't look at it but unless it is a better MS coin - at least MS 63 - the benefit of getting it graded is minimal. I own this coin in MS-62 and its probably worth slightly more than $100 today or about R1200.

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CapeCurrencyCoin

Hi In my opinion almost certainly not better than AU58,although probably not worse either, unless it has been cleaned,difficult to tell from the photos but obverse has a bit of a "cleaned look",but could just be the photos.however one can only be sure by inspecting the coin,If you are certain its not cleaned and has no hairlines,I would say AU58.

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KahlilG

Thank you for the comments. While the subject regarding photos has come up, can anyone assit with how exactly to go about taking high quality photos of coins?

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BUCKS_N_GEMS

HI

JWITHER

i would like to buy that 1924 6p ms62 from u at 2000 rands

can u list it specially for me? - i see u say its costing around 100 dollars

thankx ismail

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BUCKS_N_GEMS

ok regarding the coin - i need more info from anyone who knows about " weak strike coins "

if u see the obverse and reverse are totally inconsistant

the wear seems to be only on the obverse - if u look closely at the wear and the lettering u will see there is no consistancy

the lettering also has a crack die field clearly visible in these photos

i would say that this is a weak strike due to die been broken or cracked only on the obverse

now my question is what do we do with such a coin ? one side perfect brilliant unc and the other looks like a bit over filled in the centre and a crack in the lettering with a weak striking on the crown and pearls - notice the higher ends of the obverse they are not worn at all - but the lower ones and the pearls are unclear? what do we classify this coin as? ngc dont find weak strikes illegible and sangs does - but the grade given was biased to the reverse only by sangs and the weak strike was not mentioned at all - so please guys we need some help

anyone can back up regarding the weak strikes?

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BUCKS_N_GEMS

my guess on a weak strike grade - ms64/65 ws

or on a normal grade by pcgs ms62 or ngc ms61

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CapeCurrencyCoin

I am 100% sure that NGC(and PCGS) factor in the "weak strike" aspect of coins when assessing the grade of a coin.I have no experience grading coins with SANGS but again I am in no doubt that any competent grader(s) will factor this in when establishing a grade.

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KahlilG

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I have tried to take better photos.

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KahlilG

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I have tried to take better photos of this 1937 2S. Would it be worth the time and money to have this coin sent for grading? What grade could this coin fetch? MS62?

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KahlilG

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What could one expect as grade MS63? Is it then stil worth sending this coin for grading

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jwither
I am 100% sure that NGC(and PCGS) factor in the "weak strike" aspect of coins when assessing the grade of a coin.I have no experience grading coins with SANGS but again I am in no doubt that any competent grader(s) will factor this in when establishing a grade.

 

I agree with this comment. A coin with a weak strike but otherwise without wear is uncirculated from a technical grading standpoint. It has no wear. Both NGC and PCGS use market grading and rightly so because this is how coins are priced (in the United States anyway) and what actually matters is what the coin actually looks like and what it is worth, not whether it has no wear.

 

An uncirculated coin with a weak strike is inferior to one with a better strike and isn't any better than a slightly circulated coin with light wear. It deserves to be be priced equivalently, all other attributes being more or less equal.

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jwither
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I have tried to take better photos of this 1937 2S. Would it be worth the time and money to have this coin sent for grading? What grade could this coin fetch? MS62?

 

I can't see the quality of the surfaces from the image. However, the quality of the strike looks excellent. Strong hair detail on a design which in my experience doesn't typically have it, though this might be less true of the 2/- and 2/6 than the smaller silver denominations.

 

If the coin is actually an MS-62 though, I wouldn't bother at this time but you will need to decide. I am not actively buying Union anymore but when I do again, I'm not interested in KGVI coins in this grade unless it is a a "key" (one of the scarcer) dates. I rate most KGVI (the lopsided majority) as "dead money" in grades up to MS-62 for the indefinite future and I generally don't like the way they look either.

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KahlilG

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I hope these photos are better.

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Ambassadors Invest

Hi Charl

 

your 1926 6 Pence is a MS62 - I will bet the grading cost on it.

 

your 1937 Florin is a MS63

 

1924 6 Pence is a MS63

 

Judging by strike,field marks and general eye appeal : NGC standard providing there are no surface hairlines not visable on photos.

 

Regards

Clinton

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BUCKS_N_GEMS

charl the new photos look worse!

i will send it to ngc for u if u like - let me know

p.s i have a 1927 6p - ms62/63 for sale if u want - looks better than the 1924 of urs - 10 000?

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