A Challenge to all arm chair coin graders on our Coin Forum: The 1927 Union Florin

[Pierre_Henri 104]

In the following pictures, there are two 1927 Florins shown – two pictures of each coin; a digital pic and scan of each coin (A and B)

Coin A has been graded by NGC and Coin B by PCGS.

The following two pictures are of the NGC coin (Coin A)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Pierrex/1927FlorinA_zps31d1ac54.jpg

 

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Pierrex/1927FlorinAa_zps6b929575.jpg

 

The following two pictures are of the PCGS coin (Coin B)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Pierrex/1927FlorinB_zpsd8d463b5.jpg

 

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Pierrex/1927FlorinBb_zpsfa8209ef.jpg

 

Please guess what the numerical grades of the two coins are (they are NOT “details” coins).

Pierre

[Little Miss Muffet 84]

Ngc--xf 45

pcgs--vf 20

[republikein 11]

Coin A: AU55 (NGC)

Coin B: XF45 (PCGS)

[ryno4711 10]

Hi Pierre

 

Coin A AU53

Coin B XF40

 

Regards

 

Ryno

[coinoisseur 14]

NGC = AU50

PCGS = XF40

 

The NGC coin looks suspect to me. The 7 and 1 is not consistent with normal struck 1927 florins

 

 

Cheers

Edited November 4, 2013 by Coinoisseur

[xsiandreas 11]

NGC - XF45 - 7 seems to be bigger than normal

PCGS - VF35

[Cold Sea 8]

Ngc = XF40

Pcgs = VF35

[Pierre_Henri 104]

Here is the answer ...

 

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Pierrex/1927NGC_zpsfde75dd2.jpg

 

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Pierrex/1927PCGS_zps47e43b64.jpg

 

I must say, that besides the poor grading standard in this instance by PCGS – I must go with the grades guessed by Cold Sea - the comments about the strange date “7” on the NGC coin calls for further research. I did not even spot it at all – thank you Anthony and Xsiandreas.

 

Anyone have the time to dig into this?

Thanks for all the comments.

Pierre

Edited November 5, 2013 by Pierre_Henri

[4kids 10]

There is nothing suspect to this Strange 7 observed here. It is merely one of the many varieties often seen in early KgV coins.

 

Just a bit of research on BoB on some current listings will result in at least three different date varieties on this year and same denomination.

 

Cheers to al.