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blacktail12

Hi

 

Well we have had no new stamp issues so far in South Africa, which is embarassing some technical issue at the approval stage.

 

I have found mail generally ok and send and receive quite a bit of overseas correspondence. We are still lucky here as a letter to new zealand would cost us R4.25 plus R15.75 registration and if we have new comms sets then the receiver is a happy chap. A heavier letter is R14 odd airmail postage to NZ.

 

I am sure their are problems but generally its not as bad as its sounds or made out to be.

 

But if one in SA collects NZ used then thats one way of getting them

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sajuli

Re: SACC

 

I realized that, but what do you think, will the SACC be published ?

When was the last issue published ?

Erich

Hello Erich,

 

 

1. I am not to sure weither there will actually be a succesfull new edition of the SACC. I am not an expert on SA stamps, but what I have seen is that it is about selling the stamp, especially on a international platform like the internet, mostly the big catalogues and their numbers are used as references, which I think in case of SA and all Commonwealth Nations would be the Stanley Gibbons, Germany the Michel Catalogue etc

 

2. The last SACC was issued in August 2005 and is the 2005/06 28th edition. It costs new a little more than R300 which is just a little less than the SG one for this area.

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philactica
But if one in SA collects NZ used then thats one way of getting them

 

@blacktail12

 

Thanks for those rates.

 

A registered 'mail' costing me NZ$10 would not have any stamps on, so no used on cover. Stamps by standard Airmail ($2) you would be lucky to receive them nicely cancelled. Best is to wash them off FDC if collected used.

Erich

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SACC

 

@ sajuli,

 

Nearly missed your post !

 

Some Countries like USA, UK, & Bund have their catalogue listing on the net. Still simplified at best, that would be the direction to go for SACC which is relatively still small in volume.

 

My last SACC is from 2002/3 so with missing the 2005 issue I may get lucky this year. It is not really about the value of the common stamps that really gets a catallogue sold these days. It is the varieties now that is the seller. When the first SACC catalogues came out 30 years ago it was all new to be studied. now it is old hack and only new discoveries and price jumps make the spotlight.

 

So skipping a few years makes sense but then the catalogue could be made more exciting with more varieties and illustrations.

 

You mentioned SG for 'that area' will have to google and see if it is worth my while to get such here.

Take heart, a NZ specialized cat. would put you out of pocket of R1000. It is an add-on type similar to the Robemark one also nearly 30 years ago.

 

Erich

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I am not too sure into what detail the SACC in terms of variations. What I know from the Bund is that there are 100s of clubs which specialise in a certain area and then supply there information to Michel which implement these. And as with NZ the Michel also has its specialised Version which are R800. However, I do not believe the SACC is in such detail as the european catalogues, I might be wrong though.

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I am not too sure into what detail the SACC in terms of variations. What I know from the Bund is that there are 100s of clubs which specialise in a certain area and then supply there information to Michel which implement these. And as with NZ the Michel also has its specialised Version which are R800. However, I do not believe the SACC is in such detail as the european catalogues, I might be wrong though.

 

@sajuli

 

Of Course the SACC is more specialized than any other catalogue on the Countries it presents and introducing varieties would make more collectors want the catalogue. FDC's, Maxis, controls, papers and probably others make great additions.

 

Otherwise one could renew a catalogue only every ten years or so, keeping only in touch with inflation and new issues etc.

 

I do have SG, NZ, Scott, SACC & Michel on items I sell otherwise I would feel 'naked'. Looking at some of these SA bids makes me need a new catalogue hastely or succumb to the thought of being a millionaire looking at my loot.

 

Erich

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blacktail12

cATEGORIES

 

wISH WE COULD HAVE A RESPONSE FROM bob STAFF :(:(

 

[please use lower case when posting -admin]

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sajuli

As s aid above I emailed them but no response so far...would faxing help?

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Hi guys,

 

What is it that you want BoB to give input to?

 

admin

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sajuli

Hello admin,

 

this posts is asking for an extention of the stamp categories. I have approached BoB multiple times with my proposal, however, there was no reply whatsoever.

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Who did you approach?

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sajuli

Noone specific. I emailed to the address listed under contact detailson the BoB main site

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...and fax (since no reply whatsoever has been received until now)

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Once you have finally decided what you want on the auction site, place a post in the Feedback forum.

 

billibo

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Catalogues

 

I am not too sure into what detail the SACC in terms of variations. However, I do not believe the SACC is in such detail as the european catalogues, I might be wrong though.

 

Hi 'sajuli',

 

A lot of information may flow from the German Clubs to Michel but very few can be accommodated.

Looking at Michel Specialized even only major faults or flaws are listed. There are so many varieties generally to all stamps that many do their own research and if the send their work to Michel they would make the choice to publish or not.

You may be aware of a CD just for Bund varieties - that is the way to go as a independent publishing starter.

Obviously many home catalogues (like Gibbons for GB) are more detailed.

 

R

Erich

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Re: Catalogues

 

You may be aware of a CD just for Bund varieties - that is the way to go as a independent publishing starter.

 

Erich what is this CD about?

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Re: Catalogues

 

What is this CD about?

 

Bund varieties check it out - from my old cd (1999) you could contact http://www.philotax.de your German is necessary.

 

R

E

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louwrence
Thanks Erich, I never knew about that one... :oops:

 

btw I posted into Feedback to BoB team http://forum.bidorbuy.co.za/viewtopic.php?t=3545&highlight=

 

Hi All,

 

I have amended Julian's post in http://forum.bidorbuy.co.za/viewtopic.php?t=3545&highlight=

 

Please give us your support on this matter, it seems that the admins require good support from the online users before they implement a change.

 

Regards

Louwrence

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More Submissions to choose from

 

Please give us your support on this matter, it seems that the admins require good support from the online users before they implement a change.

 

@ Admin

@ Louwence,

 

Here is another similar structure as a guide.

 

In essence a split is necessitated when and if different items are cluttering up = *

 

Initial grouping for Stamps (PHILATELY)

 

1 Africa

2 America

3 Asia

4 Australia & Pacific Region

5 Europe

6 Accessories, Collections

NOTE: Create new Country Category e.g. Great Britain for Europe as necessary to avoid clutter.

 

Sub-division for Africa

 

Using the SACC (Contents Index) as a timeline guide is a good start.

 

1.1 South Africa - 1913

Includes all pre 1913 designated Countries

CoGh, Griqu. West, Vryburg, Mafeking, Natal, New Rep., OFS, ORC, Tvl, Pietersburg, Lydenburg to Zululand. *

 

 

1.2 Union of South Africa 1913-61

Mint, Used, Special Event Covers (SEC) & (Maxis, Booklets, Stationary) - can include FDC Postal History etc. *

 

1.3 Republic of South Africa 1961-

Mint, Used, Controls, FDC (SEC & (Maxis, DSC, Booklets, Stationary)

 

1.4 Homelands

Transkei, Bophuthatswana, Venda & Ciskei

Mint, Used, Controls, FDC (SEC & Maxis, DSC, Booklets, Stationary)

 

1.5 South West Africa & Namibia

Mint, Used, Controls, FDC (SEC & Maxis, DSC, Booklets, Stationary)

 

1.6 Rest of Africa *

 

Let the other Countrieas evolve as necessary

 

Regards

Erich

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louwrence

I think we can take the simpler structure of Erich and change it a little bit to separate the FDCs from the other philatelic items in some categories, this was the reason for the previous split:

 

In essence a split is necessitated when and if different items are cluttering up = *

 

Initial grouping for Stamps (PHILATELY):

 

1 Africa

2 America

3 Asia

4 Australia & Pacific Region

5 Europe

6 Thematics

7 Accessories, Collections

 

[iThe Union was formed in 1910 and the first stamp issued in Nov 1910.[/i]

 

1.1 Pre-South Africa - before 1910

Includes all pre 1910 designated Colonies and Republics

CoGh, Griqu. West, Vryburg, Mafeking, Natal, New Rep., OFS, ORC, ZAR, Tvl, Pietersburg, Lydenburg to Zululand. *

 

1.2 Union of South Africa 1910-61

Mint, Used, Special Event Covers (SEC) & (Maxis, Booklets, Stationary) - can include FDC Postal History etc. *

 

1.3 Republic of South Africa 1961- today *

1.3.1 RSA Covers, Cards and Postal Stationary - FDC (SEC & (Maxis, DSC, Booklets, Stationary)

1.3.2 RSA Stamps - Mint, Used, Controls

 

1.4 Homelands *

Transkei, Bophuthatswana, Venda & Ciskei

1.4.1 Homeland Covers, Cards and Postal Stationary - FDC (SEC & (Maxis, DSC, Booklets, Stationary)

1.4.2 Homeland Stamps - Mint, Used, Controls

 

1.5 South West Africa & Namibia *

1.5.1 SWA/Namibia Covers, Cards and Postal Stationary - FDC (SEC & (Maxis, DSC, Booklets, Stationary)

1.5.2 SWA/Namibia Stamps - Mint, Used, Controls

 

1.6 Rest of Africa *

 

This structure is open enough to evolve in future only in the areas necessary, hopefully, without a major restructuring of the whole philately category again. What is the others opinion?

 

Regards

Louwrence

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sajuli

Thank you all for your input. Just as a note: The later addition for categories is not as easy as it seems and takes a long time and a lot of correspondance with BoB. Therefor I believe that a decent structure, detailed and logical, should be implied now

 

Julian

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louwrence

MindMap of simpler structure

 

Let's start looking at the pictures. Here is the MindMap image for the simpler structure:

 

deleted - please resize as the rules - admin

==> The 420 pixel width is producing a picture that can be read only by the ones with eagle eyes amongst us. <==

Click here for the bigger picture

 

I will post the extended structure shortly.

 

Louwrence

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MindMap for extended structure

 

Here is the extended MindMap:

 

deleted - please resize - admin

==> The 420 pixel width is producing a picture that can be read only by the ones with eagle eyes amongst us. <==

Click here for the bigger picture

 

It looks to me we still need to work on this one if we want a comprehensive structure.

 

:idea: I propose that we should strike a balance between the simpler structure and this more comprehensive structure based on all the proposals posted in this forum.

 

:?: Can we get at least agreement that the basic structure for the Stamps (Philately) category is as marked in the simpler structure with the green ticks? :?:

 

Louwrence

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philactica

Great Mind-Map

 

Here is the MindMap image for the simpler structure

 

@ Louwrence

 

I like the Map 8)

 

It would really help BoB buyers a lot when browsing for their Controls, FDC etc. etc - whatevers.

 

I have always thought that making it easier for a purchase you have done well with your advertising.

 

The layout is a very good basis for PHILATELY with amendments probably due much later.

 

Now it is up to BoB to implement - please !?

 

Regards

Erich

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