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I've been browsing the Weekend Special ring section and in the gold category encounter the term Gold fusion from this seller:

Gold - EXCLUSIVE ITALIAN DESIGNER GOLD FUSION IMPORTED RING WITH PLENTY SIM DIAMONDS ADDED for sale in Klerksdorp (ID:44477077)

 

I'm puzzled to what it might be, the seller claims it's a new way to fuse gold onto items. I understand this as a new way to plate gold onto brass/silver, but that does not make the item to be sold as solid gold. So why would this item be sold in the gold section?

I could be wrong of course, but I cannot find the term "gold fusion" anywhere. Can anyone help?

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Miss Jewels

Hi windrider. Found this wording on google : GOLD FUSION - ITALIAN GOLD PLATED JEWELLERY - from a jeweler in Jhb. Furthermore, found another site where the word fusion is often used but it's to describe the "fusion" of two materials, e.g. platinum and gold to make one ring. This specific ring you're referring to looks like costume jewelery to me and the answers received on the questions are also not very direct or specific. Just my opinion

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MiemsJewels
I've been browsing the Weekend Special ring section and in the gold category encounter the term Gold fusion from this seller:

Gold - EXCLUSIVE ITALIAN DESIGNER GOLD FUSION IMPORTED RING WITH PLENTY SIM DIAMONDS ADDED for sale in Klerksdorp (ID:44477077)

 

I'm puzzled to what it might be, the seller claims it's a new way to fuse gold onto items. I understand this as a new way to plate gold onto brass/silver, but that does not make the item to be sold as solid gold. So why would this item be sold in the gold section?

I could be wrong of course, but I cannot find the term "gold fusion" anywhere. Can anyone help?

Q:

What is Gold Fusion? Not GP, Not 9ct.Gold? - Asked by Vonnies2 (1607 rating5.gif)

25 Aug 22:59

 

A:

It is of extremely high quality of Gold Fusion

UPDATED: 26 Aug 06:35

It is a mix of high quality melted gold which by means of new technology gets fused onto the items

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Miss Jewels

Miems, what's your opinion on the question? Do you also find it a bit evasive as if the seller is not too sure themself? Do you know gold fusion jewelry? All I could find was this little bit of info on google.

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MiemsJewels
Miems, what's your opinion on the question? Do you also find it a bit evasive as if the seller is not too sure themself? Do you know gold fusion jewelry? All I could find was this little bit of info on google.

 

Hi Miss Jewels, yes she/he definitely don't know what it is. Otherwise don't want to tell the truth! I dont know goldfusion. All I know that in China Mall is a shop called Gold Fusion. The gold jewelery though are coated, but guaranteed for 2 years, not to "go off"

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MiemsJewels

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Information

 

Category:Business - Consumer GroupsDescription:Exlusive Designer Gold Plated JewelleryPrivacy Type:Open: All content is public.

 

This came from facebook, and it stated GOLD PLATED JEWELLERY. :amazed:

 

Fused into the items? really don't know what that means lol

Edited by MiemsJewels

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windrider

I thought it was also a different form of gold plating. I agree, the ring does look like costume jewellery

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JUSTWATCHES

Gold fusion, dipped, plated, rolled etc.

 

Regarding Fusion, gold plated, Rolled gold, dipped etc. In stead of just selling items, we found that most try to sell their items with descriptions (which is normaly wrong) trying to break down other sellers on Bidorbuy. Why this happens in South Africa could only be that sellers do not want the sun to shine on others. The same attitude is not found with International sales. What they should do is just sell their items with a normal description.

 

The correct descriptions (by somebody else) is:

 

•Gold Wash or Flash gold. This form of plating uses the minimum of gold. An ultra thin coating of electroplate gold of maybe ½ micron if you’re lucky (1 micron is 1 millionth of an inch). This jewellery is not normally marked with any hallmark and will come off with the slight wear. Used on bling bling cheap jewellery and does not conform to any standard.

•Electroplate. (EP,GP) Normal electroplate jewellery puts a layer of between 1 to 20 microns of gold on a base metal article. Depending how thick the plating is, will determine how long a piece will retain its shine. 20 microns is good and used on watch cases with a 20 year wear guarantee. Pieces may be marked with GP after the carat of gold used. E.g. 18K GP some include the thickness of the plating e.g. 18K GP 10 Microns

•Hard Gold Electroplate. (HGP, HGEP) Same as above but even thicker. 100 microns of gold is used in this electroplate process. This is the best type of electroplate and is marked usually something like this 18K HGEP or HGP. Found on heavy use articles like gold spectacle frames, watch cases etc.

•Rolled Gold, Gold Overlay. (RG, OG, GO) This is not a plating process but a fusion process where a sheet of base metal is covered with thin layers of gold and then heat fused together. Jewellery is then made from this sheet. There is usually an indicator number to tell you how much gold was used. E.g. 1/40 18K RG means that an 18K layer has been fused to a base metal AND that 1/40 of the total weight of the piece is 18k gold.

•Gold filled. (GF). Same as rolled gold except it meets a higher standard, in that it has to be 1/20 gold as against the weight of the article. You may see 18K GF or 1/20 18K GF. They both mean the same. This is the best form of plated gold. It should last at least one lifetime and more.

•SOLID Gold. ( *K, *KT, *ct *CT ) Most people are familiar with gold marks. They can range from 8K to 24K (333 to 1000). There are various ways to indicate the purity of gold. Most are controlled by your government and are to certify that the piece of gold you have falls into an acceptable range of purity. See my other guides if you want an in depth look at gold markings.

•Plumb Gold ( *K P ). Very rarely seen but the P after the carat designation means “plumb gold", which means the purity is EXACTLY as stated and does not allow any variation. Most unusual for jewellery. E.g. 18K P

•Gold Plate on Solid Gold. Some jewellers use a high carat plating on a lower carat gold piece to enhance the colour. Unfortunately there is nothing to indicate this process as there is nothing illegal in this form of plating. If you see a 9K piece of jewellery that is a very bright yellow you may be suspicious, but that’s it. It still 9K gold but which, over the years, may lose its bright yellow appearance. There are no Hallmarks for this.

If you like antique jewellery, rolled gold and gold filled are well worth considering as they were very popular in the 1800’s with a lot of good jewellery manufactured from it. Such a thick layer of gold means many of these old pieces are still good condition.

Go to a professional jeweler for advise.

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Lukeness

The problem though, is that some sellers do not stick to, or even know, the above standards and use the terminology loosely. Standards like these are not universal and so are often open to abuse.

Also, given that many of the items are not especially expensive, it is not financially viable (and it is generally at least partially destructive) to actually check just how thick the gold plating on your jewellery is or what technique or grade was used.

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khany80

I feel robbed! I am new to bid or buy and bided for a gold fusion ring because it stated that the value was high on the add. Now after winning the bid and making payment I decided to do research! (Dumb) The information about the value of the item should be correct! I was so excited to receive the first item I bided for on bidorbuy until now.........:notrust:

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Cali Craft and Gems

Hi Khany80

 

Firstly - welome to BoB!

 

It is easier said than done, but don't let one rotten apple spoil your experience on this wonderful site. You have now learned (the hard way) to do homework or research before hitting the "bid" or "buy" button. I always say that it is better to be safe than sorry and to read the entire listing... if you are unsure about anything, ask the seller specifically (using the "Ask the seller a question" function on each listing), or do some snooping around on the web... you can even come to the forum to ask for advice - as I have done so many times over the years.

 

But back onto the subject of gold fusion - personally I do not like the idea of this process (I'm more of a "real thing" type of person), but it may appeal to some individuals. I have noticed that over the years many of the major jewellery retail stores out there have opted for this type of jewellery - I am assuming because it is generally more affordable than some jewellery pieces.

 

Ultimately it is the seller's responsibility to be totally honest and accurate with their listing, and in some cases (as is with the gold fusion process), perhaps it could even be an idea to give a link or a basic description of what it means in the listing - this way it protects both the buyer and the seller by being up front about the item, plus it serves to educate buyers in the process.

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megane1983

Hi can anyone tell me if SOLID TITANIUM IP GOLD BRUSHED CENTRE TRIPLE CZ BAND will make marks on my fingers if i wear it a long time?

And the same with the 18K GOLD PLATED OVER STAINLESS STEEL SIMULATED DIAMOND?

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Miss Jewels

Hi megane1983

Anything that is plated will come off over a period of time. If you're allergic to certain metals, this could make your fingers black or green.

The second ring you refer to is a costume jewelery ring with a cz as centre stone and crystals as secondary stones. These crystals are also not set which means they can/will fall out (most of them are normally glued in)

The first ring is definitely better quality and often you're lucky that the gold brush plating stays intact for a period of 12 - 18 months, depending on how you wear your ring.

 

Also always better to let price lead you ..... R185.00 is not going to get you a quality ring with genuine gold ....

 

Hope this helps.

Edited by Miss Jewels

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SADiamondsrus

Just a quick 2c

 

From what I know its basically real gold plated over the metal, but the "real" gold is mixed with other stuff. LONGER LASTING not real gold.

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SADiamondsrus

Yep, and I bet its not the real gold fusion.

 

That pamphlet seems just to be the name of their game, nothing to do with actual gold fusion

 

 

 

 

Hi megane1983

Anything that is plated will come off over a period of time. If you're allergic to certain metals, this could make your fingers black or green.

The second ring you refer to is a costume jewelery ring with a cz as centre stone and crystals as secondary stones. These crystals are also not set which means they can/will fall out (most of them are normally glued in)

The first ring is definitely better quality and often you're lucky that the gold brush plating stays intact for a period of 12 - 18 months, depending on how you wear your ring.

 

Also always better to let price lead you ..... R185.00 is not going to get you a quality ring with genuine gold plating....

Hope this helps.

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kyle2

If it looks like a duck and Quacks like a Fish.................

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RISadler

Geez, reading this thread, I'd say one is much better off with a Cobra grommet and some Brasso ... than gold plated/fusion/whatever rings!

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