daddie2610 10 Posted May 12, 2011 Know these "donkey" images of Claerhout on BoB is a very touchy subject for a very long time, but now the donkey is starting to appear on clay!!! How will it ever be possible to obtain a COA for this work. Any thoughts on this one Stone - This clay panel was made whilst Father Claerhout was in Medi Clinic in 2006 Opp of a lifetime for sale in Bloemfontein (ID:37646452):shock: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilythepink 11 Posted May 12, 2011 Old Claerhout was allowed to work with clay in Medi Clinic??? Did they provide him with a workshop? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyle2 10 Posted May 12, 2011 I find the donkey saga quite fascinating, perhaps they can make some little donkey figurines next time too!:disgusted: Some jackass might actually bid on it?LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPBon 10 Posted May 12, 2011 I should up all my prices seeing as the artist is also dead. I still don't get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MsPlod 10 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) One of the things I find the most fascinating is that this trader only seems to sell donkey motif items. Claerhout's work covered such a variety of Free State life... Hmmmmm?? That clay looks VERY wet to me! Anyone else here do clay modelling? Have a look here... http://www.arteditions.co.za/frans-claerhout-prints.html Edited May 13, 2011 by MsPlod Added link to a selection of Claerhout's "non-donkey" work... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeds for Africa 18 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Old Claerhout was allowed to work with clay in Medi Clinic??? Did they provide him with a workshop? This is completely and utterly bizarre, unlikely, but not impossible! I have posted on numerous threads on the claerhout work, and so many questions remain unanswered like what the outcome was with the work that was checked and found to have wet paint (years after the artists death), and was supposedly not in the style of the artist. How big are these sellers collections? It seems endless..... Wouldnt it be nice to get a few simple answers to some simple questions? I am NOT accusing anyone of anything but for the excellent reputation of bob, and the reputation of the sellers they really should provide some more transparency! There again thats my opinion! A quick review of the sellers of Clarehout paintings, ratings shows that over 600 have been sold. Wonder how many more are available? Heres an exercise. I will buy one of these, and have it checked out by an expert. I guess there would be some art experts on the forum more than willing to check my purchase for me! To the art experts, please PM me if you are willing to verify the purchase I intend on making. Thanks Edited May 13, 2011 by Seeds for Africa Added Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilythepink 11 Posted May 13, 2011 Good luck to you, Grant. There is so little space in a hospital room so I think if this article was genuinely produced in Medi-Clinic, old Father Claerhout was given a workshop and tools! And, if he was well enough to produce clay donkey thingies then it begs the question - why was he in hospital? Somebody seems to think we are all (including BoB!) fools! That's what gets my goat (as opposed to my donkey!). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daddie2610 10 Posted May 13, 2011 I do own 4 Claerhout works of art, each with a COA issued by 2 different art dealers, totally different to these "works". I also find it hard to believe that these donkey work are the only art left by Claerhout. If you go to reputable art dealers you will pay in excess of R12000-R15000 for a A4 charcoal donkey by the great master himself. Should I not ask the seller for a COF and see what answer I get. Sad to say that the certified copy of a letter by Claerhout by SAPS means nothing, niks, lutu...how can you certify a copy of a copy. Is it not time for BoB to step in once and for ever to route out these donkeys and painted flowers:shock: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeds for Africa 18 Posted May 13, 2011 Good luck to you, Grant. There is so little space in a hospital room so I think if this article was genuinely produced in Medi-Clinic, old Father Claerhout was given a workshop and tools! And, if he was well enough to produce clay donkey thingies then it begs the question - why was he in hospital? Somebody seems to think we are all (including BoB!) fools! That's what gets my goat (as opposed to my donkey!). I am not accusing anyone of anything, but if questions were answered it would benefit the sellers (as in they would have much more buyer confidence which would result in more sales and higher prices), and it would benefit bob as with more sales and better prices they would have more in success fees. As you say, unlikely but not impossible! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathway 10 Posted May 13, 2011 Come on guys, we're missing an opportunity here, think of it!!! Donkey notepaper. Donkey earrings and pendants. Plastic donkeys with moveable arms and legs - oops, I mean legs. Donkey t-shirts and jackets. Stand aside, Winnie the Pooh, donkey wallpaper for the baby's room, with donkey quilts and pillow cases. It goes on and on... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TS Ron 10 Posted May 13, 2011 Come on guys, we're missing an opportunity here, think of it!!! Donkey notepaper. Donkey earrings and pendants. Plastic donkeys with moveable arms and legs - oops, I mean legs. Donkey t-shirts and jackets. Stand aside, Winnie the Pooh, donkey wallpaper for the baby's room, with donkey quilts and pillow cases. It goes on and on... No I want one thats eyes light up in the back of the car everytime we brake a little plastic one with a nodding head etc! I would also like it to lift it is tail at some idiot driving on my tail in traffic as well. Or request the idiot to pin the donkeys tail? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeds for Africa 18 Posted May 13, 2011 Know these "donkey" images of Claerhout on BoB is a very touchy subject for a very long time, but now the donkey is starting to appear on clay!!! How will it ever be possible to obtain a COA for this work. Any thoughts on this one Stone - This clay panel was made whilst Father Claerhout was in Medi Clinic in 2006 Opp of a lifetime for sale in Bloemfontein (ID:37646452):shock: People we are reading this wrong!!! There is nothing to say that Claerhout made it..... all they are saying was it was made "whilst he was in the clinic"!!!:bigsmile::biggrin::grin::biggrin: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilythepink 11 Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) Come on guys, we're missing an opportunity here, think of it!!! Donkey notepaper. Donkey earrings and pendants. Plastic donkeys with moveable arms and legs - oops, I mean legs. Donkey t-shirts and jackets. Stand aside, Winnie the Pooh, donkey wallpaper for the baby's room, with donkey quilts and pillow cases. It goes on and on... Will there be room for us to put a type of F.Claerhout signature on a pair of earrings? LOL Grant - there is a "F Claerhout" signature on the clay piece. Do you think the old chap used the theatre at Medi Clinic in 2006 specially to do this? The theatre may have have had some types of instruments he could have used to scratch the donkey into the clay? I wish a pox on all the people who are producing forgeries! Edited May 14, 2011 by lilythepink Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeds for Africa 18 Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) One of the things I find the most fascinating is that this trader only seems to sell donkey motif items. Claerhout's work covered such a variety of Free State life... Hmmmmm?? That clay looks VERY wet to me! Anyone else here do clay modelling? Have a look here... Art Editions ›› Frans Claerhout Prints Heres whats next!!! Just to add a bit of variety we have Mary and baby ***** riding on the donkey Acrylics - A3 mixed media Charcoal pastels and paint Makes this Mary and baby ***** on donkey by F Claerhout for sale in Bloemfontein (ID:37980967) I wonder if there were any more sculptures done at Mediclinic? Cant wait to see what comes next!!! Edited May 18, 2011 by Seeds for Africa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MsPlod 10 Posted May 18, 2011 I wonder whether the picture with mother and child on donkey was lacquered? Very shiny at the top of the picture, reminds me of this... Watching Paint Dry WEBCAM! Hmmmmmm.....??????????????????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mellowred 10 Posted May 18, 2011 Very interesting that one person has so many originals from one artist. Family member perhaps?:sneaky: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
