brands online 10 Posted December 17, 2010 Hi All, I personally think the filing of SNC's period should be moved to up by at least 2 days. Lots of things come into play here. I know that a seller can stipulate their payment periods in the listings, and then resell the item, but most sellers would rather make the sale, me included. 7 Days is however a ridiculous amount of time for buyers to complete payment. 90% or more buyers pay us via EFT so that shouldn't take more than a few minutes after winning the auction. But lots of buyers know that sellers spend money to advertise the item and would rather recover that and complete the sale so they pay 6 days later at times. Every so often, you'll find the buyers who wait for you to file the SNC and pay 4 to 5 days after that just before the SNC is completed. That leaves a gap of between 11 and 14 days after purchase to completion of SNC. In the interim, the seller needs to keep that stock, lose that physical space and carry an ongoing list of debtors for upto 2 weeks. Isn't 5 days enough or perhaps an option where sellers can choose the length of time to file a SNC on their auctions ranging between say 4 and 10 days. That would allow room for everybody, not so?:thinking: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayjen 10 Posted December 17, 2010 agreed. Some items you can wait 14 days but others you want to be able to relist to be able to catch the people whilst the item is still fresh in their minds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPBon 10 Posted December 17, 2010 I have seen some people have in their listings that goods not paid for within a specific time period will be relisted and then the snc filed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Jewels 10 Posted December 17, 2010 I have seen some people have in their listings that goods not paid for within a specific time period will be relisted and then the snc filed My T & C's clearly state if item is not paid within 5 working days of auction closing, SNC will be filed and item relisted. Irrespective if BoB gives another 7 days to appeal, these are my terms and conditions. It's for me to decide to relist or wait another 7-10 days for payment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angolo Antico 10 Posted December 17, 2010 I FULLY agree, BOB was kind enough to give us a selling platform, we can use our own terms of sale, now the only thing we can't change is the time period for SNC, our listings state that payment must be made within 2 days of auction close, most buyers pays within 4 days which is 100% fine with us, but why wait 7 days, the buyer 'appeals' and never completes the purchase any way, but all the while pushing 7 days to 14 days to complete the SNC. 4-10 days for SNC where each seller can CHOOSE their own time frame that suits them would be great. Since the 8th of Dec to date we already filed 10 SNC's !!!! Loosing more than a 100 bucks in NON refundable fees, having to wait 7 days & in some cases waiting up to 14 days for those buyers who appeals the SNC, while sitting with stock that could have been marketed and sold to someone! What does BOB management think? MK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilythepink 11 Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) I don't have any problem with the initial first 7 days' wait before I can file an SNC. That is fair enough. However, the buyer should be given no more than 48 hours within which to respond! It's this second 7-day period which I think is so unfair for sellers. The buyers often respond stating that they intend to pay but never ever do! Edited December 18, 2010 by lilythepink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted December 18, 2010 int main(void) { while ($horse === $dead) { flog(); } } Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Jewels 10 Posted December 18, 2010 I don't have any problem with the initial first 7 days' wait before I can file an SNC. That is fair enough. However, the buyer should be given no more than 48 hours within which to respond! It's this second 7-day period which I think is so unfair of sellers. The buyers often respond stating that they intend to pay but never ever do! I think the initial SNC is in agreement by all. It's the 7 day wait thereafter to appeal and .then the possiblity of still no payment. 48 Hours is very reasonable as T & C's are visual for all on the site so there is little/no excuse for late payment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATA STAMP CENTRE 80 Posted December 18, 2010 HI I agree that 7 days is fair,but what is the point of allowing an snc appeal.If the seller can relist immediately he files an snc then that item is not available anymore so even if the buyer appeals the snc and wants to pay he has in most cases been informed the item is no longer available and not to pay anymore.I therefore cannot see the reason for the snc appeal. bob obviously want to protect their success fees as long as possible and give the buyer every opportunity to complete the sale neil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Jewels 10 Posted December 18, 2010 HI I agree that 7 days is fair,but what is the point of allowing an snc appeal.If the seller can relist immediately he files an snc then that item is not available anymore so even if the buyer appeals the snc and wants to pay he has in most cases been informed the item is no longer available and not to pay anymore.I therefore cannot see the reason for the snc appeal. bob obviously want to protect their success fees as long as possible and give the buyer every opportunity to complete the sale neil Neil, I totally agree. SNC = Sale not complete! It does not read "SNC pending buyers decision to purchase" I would be more than happy if a decision is taken to declare the sale nul and void after the SNC has been filed after 7 days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qball 12 Posted December 20, 2010 Sorry folks, this is not going to be changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Jewels 10 Posted December 20, 2010 Sorry folks, this is not going to be changed. Hi qball. Question please. If a seller has T & C's clearly stating that an item must be paid within a certain period and if not done, item will be relisted ....,Is the filing of the SNC merely a formality and can we relist our items immediately after filing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted December 20, 2010 Sorry folks, this is not going to be changed. See? I told you so... :nuts: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qball 12 Posted December 20, 2010 Hi qball. Question please. If a seller has T & C's clearly stating that an item must be paid within a certain period and if not done, item will be relisted ....,Is the filing of the SNC merely a formality and can we relist our items immediately after filing? Filing the SNC is merely a formality, so your suggestion is fine with us. For example, should a seller state payment within 72 hours and no payment is forthcoming, you are welcome to relist the item. The seller also has the opportunity to confirm if payment is received if a buyer appeals and states still plans to pay. We already pay sellers millions of Rands back due to SNC's, so it's not about protecting our revenue as many suggest... :surprised: Better yet, why don't we remove SNC's completely? :grin: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted December 20, 2010 Better yet, why don't we remove SNC's completely? OK by me. We can always make up the loss through ridiculous postage and 8% insurance levy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qball 12 Posted December 20, 2010 Sure, for a week or so then we will blacklist you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted December 20, 2010 Sure, for a week or so then we will blacklist you... And then I just create another account. :razz: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qball 12 Posted December 20, 2010 We'll blacklist that one too... :suspicious: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted December 20, 2010 .. then I'll create another one... and another one... and another one... and then I'll probably stop. :nuts: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qball 12 Posted December 20, 2010 And we will blacklist, blacklist, blacklist, and then institute legal proceedings against you, hire a PI to locate you and send some large Nigerians around to give you some friendly advice... :laugh: aaahhh if only...???:wondering: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted December 20, 2010 Nigerians??? What are those wusses going to do? Mmmmm, mow the lawn, prune the hedges... when do they arrive? :laugh: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilythepink 11 Posted December 20, 2010 No man, RI - they'll dismantle your alarm system, boot you out of your house and set up a spaza shop in your garage! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brands online 10 Posted December 20, 2010 And we will blacklist, blacklist, blacklist, and then institute legal proceedings against you, hire a PI to locate you and send some large Nigerians around to give you some friendly advice... :laugh: aaahhh if only...???:wondering: Nigerians??? What are those wusses going to do? Mmmmm, mow the lawn, prune the hedges... when do they arrive? :laugh: Now now gentlemen, stick to the topic please and avoid nasty confrontations... :razz: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qball 12 Posted December 20, 2010 Brands, you are absolutely right, let's stick to the topic... :grin: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilythepink 11 Posted December 20, 2010 Brands, you are absolutely right, let's stick to the topic... :grin: Reminds me of the old Elvis Presley song "Stuck on you"! (Sorry, I couldn't help but post this!) :hm: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites