miekel 10 Posted July 14, 2008 Hi, Apologies if a forum for this question already exists. I have not yet received a rating from a seller (not +, 0 or -) after completion of transaction. I've requested that he rates me - after prompt payment and receipt of the goods. I have rated him, but what do I do now? http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/item/Item.jsp?Trade_TradeId=8140991 regards, miekel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaLamia 13 Posted July 14, 2008 Wow your seller seems to be quite big, making them probably quite busy. But this is no excuse in my opinion, I make a point of rating every single one of my buyers and sellers, I don't find laziness an excuse, things like this annoy me... I don't know if there is anything you can do to get their attention, just don't change their rating to neutral or negative now cos that would be unjustified. I guess you can only email and wait. Perhaps send him a q7a directing him to this thread to let him know that such apathetic service is not tolerated and does get noticed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missscarlet 10 Posted January 21, 2009 One possible solution may be that a system block is put on which disallows a buyer to rate a seller unless the seller has already rated the buyer for the particular item - then again, that can also be abused and may well open a can of worms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cali Craft and Gems 14 Posted January 21, 2009 Sad to say, but I've had two "raw deals" regarding ratings over my time here. First buyer (Feb/Mar 2008) bought literally hundreds of items from me, yet only rated maybe about 10% of the items. Second buyer (from Dec 2008) bought stacks of Swarovski beads, rated me on less than 10% of the transactions, then claims she is too busy to do the rest of the ratings (in reply to a friendly email). Once again the seller loses out! Take a look at any seller's ratings - total items sold versus the total of the ratings received. By example, my total items sold stands at 4529, yet add the ratings together and you'll only get 3579 - a massive 950 ratings "missing"! If only I had a few more of those missing ratings - I'd be so much closer to my gold star! Wish there was an easier solution instead of just grinning and bearing it! I'm proud of the work I do and how I serve my buyers - pity the feeling wasn't mutual! (ie appreciated!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missscarlet 10 Posted January 21, 2009 That is just the sort of abuse that I was talking about - I can not understand people who either do not pay immediately, or who do not rate - to me it is a question of good manners at the very least. Perhaps that is a sign that I'm getting old as the people who do delay payment and/or do not rate are probably the same people that never say "Good morning", "Thank You" or who give you a very funny look when you wish them "Happy Christmas". As they say in Yorkshire "there is none queerer than folk" - not that I come from Yorkshire but in this instance I'll gladly use their saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted January 21, 2009 Eventhough I agree with what you are all saying here, we are all wasting our time, some people just don't care. This subject has been discussed in numerous threads on this forum and always the same conclusion. It is the buyer/sellers choice if, when and how he rates you. As long as he does not abuse the rating system. Happy Bidding and Buying Oops! ...........................and rating. :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cali Craft and Gems 14 Posted January 21, 2009 I was brought up to show general courtesty where ever I go, or with whom ever I deal with. It irritates the daylights out of me now days when people can't even have the simple manners (ie please, thank you, good morning, etc)! What also irritates me is if you call someone - example: "Hello" "Hi, this is Janet, I'm calling from Cali Craft, how are you?" "I'm fine" "Uhm, can I please speak to ...." Then to end the conversation: "Thank you, enjoy your day further" "Ok, bye" What's wrong with simple manners? I can't say "has that gone to the dogs too?" cos my dog has better manners than some people I've come across! Sadly, as Bube has stated, one cannot force the seller or buyer to do the ratings - you can only hope like hell that they do, and that it is positive! You still get some buyers (and sellers) who simply cannot be pleased no matter what! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missscarlet 10 Posted January 21, 2009 Just had a thought - maybe a change to the way that ratings are calculated could assist. Currently I understand that ratings are calculated as percentages of good/bad/ugly in relationship - if this was perhaps changed to become in relation to total number of items sold or bought a very different rating may appear. This may just motivate sellers/buyers to rate especially if the ratings then fall below a particular level which would prohibit people from selling, or here's a thought, from buying. I need to think it through, but it may be a possibility. Another option may be that buyers can't bid on another item until they have rated their previous purchase if such purchase was more than 14/21 days before their current bid. (same logic/rationale could also be applied to sellers). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LokiMART 10 Posted January 21, 2009 The reason so many buyers don't rate is because they spend so much less time in 'My BidorBuy' than sellers do. We as sellers are constantly confronted with the 'Recent buyers requiring feedback' link so we're far more likely to click it and sort it out. Anyway, that's the least of the problems with the ratings system. As it stands I never give bad ratings regardless of the service because I know I'll get a revenge rating in return. It's all a bit pointless in my opinion. Not even worth worrying about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gold_Man 10 Posted January 22, 2009 re buyers not bothering to rate sellers An idea which I know isn't implementable: introduce a written multiple question quizz which every user has to complete & pass to gain / keep access to their BoB account. This would force users to become aware of trading conditions, what's expected, what's unacceptable, decorum... Wishful thinking, I know, but it would go a LONG WAY to minimising the amount of unnecessary time which sellers spend to & fro-ing emails to buyers, especially newbies. It's quite incredible how a buyer will, for example, refer to the size of the photograph of an item, choose to ignore the text where exact dimensions are specified, then claim that they expected an item "as big as in the photo" - after having bought a thin bracelet. Never mind the fact that monitor size & resolution will determine the size at whch a user sees a photograph. These same buyers don't complain when they buy a car yet have seen a photo of it which is 20x smaller than the real size of the item, do they? OK, had my little rant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cali Craft and Gems 14 Posted January 22, 2009 Gold_man You've raised some valid points there - especially with regards to the size of the image - you can state "highly magnified" to your hearts content, and you'll still get the buyer who complains that he / she didn't know the items were so small... Then the colour issue too - got a poor rating the other day because the gem wasn't as "lively" as in image - uhm... compare daylight against artificial lighting against studio / professional lighting as used in some photography and tell me the item looks the same all the time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted March 2, 2009 Hi Look at this seller. Over 600 ratings from buyers, but not 1 rating given back. http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/userprofile/UserReviewsGiven.jsp?User_UserId=426634&UserReview_ReviewedUserType=0 Is this fair? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LokiMART 10 Posted March 2, 2009 I just checked, and he's given over 28 pages worth of ratings? :shock: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaLamia 13 Posted March 2, 2009 ^^ I don't really get what you mean bube02, the link you posted is a link to the ratings he has given to buyers of his items... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted March 2, 2009 Talamia My point is that he has never rated a buyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaLamia 13 Posted March 2, 2009 I think you are confused about how the profile page works, according to that link he has given over 28 pages worth of ratings to buyers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted March 2, 2009 Hi No, I am not confused. Here is the link to the "ratings from buyers" http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/userprofile/UserReviewsReceived.jsp?User_UserId=426634&UserReview_ReviewedUserType=0 And here is the link to the "ratings given to buyers" http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/userprofile/UserReviewsGiven.jsp?User_UserId=426634&UserReview_ReviewedUserType=0 See the difference in the figures in the summary blocks? All 28 pages of ratings were given to the seller by buyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaLamia 13 Posted March 2, 2009 Since this thread is called "seller has not rated me" what you're bringing up is "buyer has not rated... " He is missing 5 pages of buyer ratings. That is totally to be expected. People are inefficient at doing things properly. It's not bidorbuy's job to make people give ratings, it is voluntary. We've already established this. If the seller wants them that badly then do follow up emails to the buyers. Be proactive about it. PS: bube02, you are confused it seems, I repeat, the 28 pages of ratings is what he the seller has given to his buyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted March 2, 2009 I think you are missing the point here. This seller does not rate buyers, period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asha Craft 34 Posted March 2, 2009 Positive rating for 1GB DISNEY MICKY MOUSE MP3 PLAYER 07 Feb 2009 Comment: great buy, thank you very much! by magicbox (659 ) Positive rating for Real Mini! All-in-one Mini Card Reader - dire... 07 Feb 2009 Comment: great buy, thank you very much! by magicbox (659 ) Neutral rating for Bluetooth USB Dongle 100m - Version 2.0 brand... 26 Feb 2009 Comment: No payment, still waiting... by magicbox (659 ) These are just a few buyers that the seller has already rated (seller rating buyer) bube02 Posted: 02 Mar 2009 15:35 Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Talamia My point is that he has never rated a buyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted March 2, 2009 Does this make more sense? Ratings from Buyers Items Sold Positive Neutral Negative Past Month 128 102 3 0 Past 3 Months 326 243 7 0 Total till Date 935 660 15 1 Do you see any such figures under "ratings given to buyers"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asha Craft 34 Posted March 2, 2009 lol, the summary doesn't show when clicking on ratings given to buyers and ratings given to sellers. but scroll down then you will see all the ratings he has given Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted March 2, 2009 Hi Asha Craft He does not rate a buyer, he merely replies to buyer ratings with a comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaLamia 13 Posted March 2, 2009 There is no such table for that page, but if you just scroll down to the bottom past all those ratings he has given you will see that there are over 28 pages. :? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
