jphotography 10 Posted September 23, 2010 (edited) I need to upgrade my pc, currently I am using my laptop and found the screen a bit small. I did buy a new screen but my internals needs an upgrade, so I am looking for someone who can supply me with a NEW pc box only. I must have the following specs. As I am using ps CS 5 and I am opening at least 500 photos at a time, it will need to be big thing! Atleast 3 or 4gb memory with a 1tb hard drive is needed. Then most importantly I will need wifi and bluetooth in the box aswell. Must have dvd writer in, and USB ports. I will need windows 7 with that aswell, and if possible a nice quotation and invoice system, not pastel anything else besides pastel. I currently use pastel and I want to change the format completely. Wacom tool needed aswell Will need to be in Gauteng I will collect the box, won't trust the postman with it :rolleyes: Edited September 23, 2010 by jphotography Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted September 23, 2010 I need to upgrade my pc, currently I am using my laptop and found the screen a bit small. I did buy a new screen but my internals needs an upgrade, so I am looking for someone who can supply me with a NEW pc box only. I must have the following specs. As I am using ps CS 5 and I am opening at least 500 photos at a time, it will need to be big thing! Atleast 3 or 4gb memory with a 1tb hard drive is needed. Then most importantly I will need wifi and bluetooth in the box aswell. Must have dvd writer in, and USB ports. I will need windows 7 with that aswell, and if possible a nice quotation and invoice system, not pastel anything else besides pastel. I currently use pastel and I want to change the format completely. Wacom tool needed aswell Will need to be in Gauteng I will collect the box, won't trust the postman with it :rolleyes: I Got wacom tool and the box 4gb ram 1TB HDD, i can list it for you here but currently dont accept collections my courier is fedex.. dont knw if u trust the postman:rolleyes: haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qball 12 Posted September 23, 2010 please be wary of new users offering such goods on the forum, this user has been blacklisted, he is not a legitimate seller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jphotography 10 Posted September 23, 2010 Thank you qball That is also a reason why I would like to collect I know we have some computer boffins on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted September 23, 2010 Hi Have sent you a PM. Should you be interested, we will do the deal on BOB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted September 24, 2010 Well, here's my input... You have two routes: off-the-shelf or custom-built. Apart from Toshiba laptops and Dell desktops (in a corporate environment), I'm not a fan of off-the-shelf computers. So, for a custom-built system, I'd make sure of the following: Processor and mainboard must both be made by Intel (make sure the 'board is actually manufactured by Intel and not just using their chipsets); Pick a 'board with onboard SATA RAID1 and buy two hard disk of the same size from different manufacturers (Seagate being one, WDC not being the other one.) Configure the disks into a RAID1 array; Buy a third hard disk of the same size as above (preferably a Seagate) and configure this as your daily backup drive (and continue to backup to DVD's regularly); Install quality memory from a reputable manufacturer, like Kingston or Corsair; Make sure that the onboard graphics does not get automatically disabled when you install a second graphics card; Buy a good quality case to put it all in, and add some extra beefy fans. Well, that's my (useless and paranoid) contribution. Do post the specifications of the intended system, so we can kibbitz. (Or PM me.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacque31 10 Posted September 24, 2010 Well, here's my input... You have two routes: off-the-shelf or custom-built. Apart from Toshiba laptops and Dell desktops (in a corporate environment), I'm not a fan of off-the-shelf computers. So, for a custom-built system, I'd make sure of the following: Processor and mainboard must both be made by Intel (make sure the 'board is actually manufactured by Intel and not just using their chipsets); Pick a 'board with onboard SATA RAID1 and buy two hard disk of the same size from different manufacturers (Seagate being one, WDC not being the other one.) Configure the disks into a RAID1 array; Buy a third hard disk of the same size as above (preferably a Seagate) and configure this as your daily backup drive (and continue to backup to DVD's regularly); Install quality memory from a reputable manufacturer, like Kingston or Corsair; Make sure that the onboard graphics does not get automatically disabled when you install a second graphics card; Buy a good quality case to put it all in, and add some extra beefy fans. Well, that's my (useless and paranoid) contribution. Do post the specifications of the intended system, so we can kibbitz. (Or PM me.) Hi RISadler - ok now for my useless information As for the CPU I agree Intel - the motherboard Gigabyte & MSI is way better than Intel boards. The raid 1 suggestion isn't a bad idea, but for home use isn't really necessary - normal back-ups will do nicely. Memory I agree with. About the comment you made about the on-board graphics, to make sure it isn't disabled when a graphics card is installed. That doesn't really matter as you can't use both at once. You can however use two graphics cards together(crossfire), but when you have a graphics card installed you PC do not use both. Good case yes, buy one 120mm fan instead of 2 small ones. Moves more air and is a little bit quieter. Anyway that's my useless input. Let us know when you're starting the assembly :wink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted September 25, 2010 jacque31, not to start anything, but I disagree with some of your disagree... The raid 1 suggestion isn't a bad idea, but for home use isn't really necessary - normal back-ups will do nicely. This system will be used for photographic processing. Yes, you MUST backup to DVD's, but it is much nicer and easier to have all your photographs available at the click of the mouse. RAID1 makes it possible to breeze through a hard drive failure. Just pop in the new drive and it rebuilds while you work. Practically zero downtime and for jphotography time is money. The third hard disk is a backup to the RAID1 system and if you trust your DVD's then it might not be entirely necessary. It also makes it possible for, in case the whole RAID1 array croaks, for jphotography to rent/borrow a PC, pop in the third disk and have all her data readily available. I'm just overly paranoid when it comes to my data. :sneaky: About the comment you made about the on-board graphics, to make sure it isn't disabled when a graphics card is installed. That doesn't really matter as you can't use both at once. You can however use two graphics cards together(crossfire), but when you have a graphics card installed you PC do not use both. In this situation you use both cards/chips at the same time by attaching two monitors. Remember that this isn't a gaming rig, but a photographic workstation. The onboard graphics chip can handle this type of work easily, but a second (and sometimes third) monitor can really boost productivity - email/forum/billing on one monitor, thumbnails of latest shoot on second, and photo being edited on third. :nuts: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oryxza 10 Posted September 25, 2010 Just my 2c worth of input on this. A decent motherboard for this situation may not even have onboard graphics. In fact I would select a motherboard without onboard graphics and use a graphics card that can handle multiple displays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacque31 10 Posted September 25, 2010 jacque31, not to start anything, but I disagree with some of your disagree... This system will be used for photographic processing. Yes, you MUST backup to DVD's, but it is much nicer and easier to have all your photographs available at the click of the mouse. RAID1 makes it possible to breeze through a hard drive failure. Just pop in the new drive and it rebuilds while you work. Practically zero downtime and for jphotography time is money. The third hard disk is a backup to the RAID1 system and if you trust your DVD's then it might not be entirely necessary. It also makes it possible for, in case the whole RAID1 array croaks, for jphotography to rent/borrow a PC, pop in the third disk and have all her data readily available. I'm just overly paranoid when it comes to my data. :sneaky: In this situation you use both cards/chips at the same time by attaching two monitors. Remember that this isn't a gaming rig, but a photographic workstation. The onboard graphics chip can handle this type of work easily, but a second (and sometimes third) monitor can really boost productivity - email/forum/billing on one monitor, thumbnails of latest shoot on second, and photo being edited on third. :nuts: No problem if you disagree - always nice to hear other people's ideas and discuss things (after all it's a discussion board :wink:) Well okay the Raid I never disagreed with - like I said it's not a bad idea. The graphics card yes you are right, but I thought about only 1 monitor is being used (which in that case would be useless) Just my 2c worth of input on this. A decent motherboard for this situation may not even have onboard graphics. In fact I would select a motherboard without onboard graphics and use a graphics card that can handle multiple displays. Yip, if this rig is so important that it has 2 monitors, is getting raid and all the works, might as well get 2 graphics cards instead of on-board graphics + graphics card.:cheesy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted September 25, 2010 A decent motherboard for this situation may not even have onboard graphics. They make 'em like this again? Shish-kebabs, I've been tinkering with ancient system too long... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jphotography 10 Posted September 26, 2010 Currently looking at a Core 2 quad Q8400 CPU? Is that any good? OHT32 I will read you pm now and see thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacque31 10 Posted September 26, 2010 Well if I'm not mistaken it's LGA775 - so if future "proofing" are of importance maybe look further into that - as to not restrict upgrades ect. Performance is good - also got some nice overclocking potential (if you're into that sort of thing :wink:) And I think it's decently priced - not too expensive and also value for your bucks (not too sure though :huh:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jphotography 10 Posted September 27, 2010 Okay I managed to get a box: Intel core I7 smack over with intel core i7 -860 2.8 ghz Bluetooth and wifi 10 usb ports 8gb ram 1tb hdd lg dvd writer windows 7 home base 720w power supply Collecting it this afternoon yay can't wait!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted September 27, 2010 1TB hard disk!? Gosh, that'll take 250 DVD's to backup. :wacko: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jphotography 10 Posted September 27, 2010 1TB hard disk!? Gosh, that'll take 250 DVD's to backup. :wacko: LOL yeah I don't use DVD as back up, only external hdd. I have 5 x 500gb hdd that is full and I bought 2 x 1tb hdd the one is almost full. The one for the pc will only be for the images I am working with currently before I send them to backup, then I delete that hdd again to make space for new work. My current hd can't even handle 4 clients at a time so I am glad I am getting something bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacque31 10 Posted September 27, 2010 Collecting it this afternoon yay can't wait!! Hope you will have lots of non-frustrating years with it :razz: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgotec 10 Posted September 27, 2010 Thats great. Congratulations, hope you enjoy your new PC. Just don't overwork yourself now, as I doubt you'll overwork the PC. :wink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jphotography 10 Posted September 27, 2010 thanks OHT32 and Jacques Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MsPlod 11 Posted September 27, 2010 Okay I managed to get a box: Intel core I7 smack over with intel core i7 -860 2.8 ghz Bluetooth and wifi 10 usb ports 8gb ram 1tb hdd lg dvd writer windows 7 home base 720w power supply Collecting it this afternoon yay can't wait!! Suffering from hard drive and RAM envy :biggrin: Enjoy!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted September 27, 2010 Me too, MsPlod. If I add all my hard disks together (as used in 7 machines and one portable disk), then I get 780GB. Memory of those machines add up to roughly 6GB... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jphotography 10 Posted September 27, 2010 6gb will keep a handfull of images. For my 1 camera I have 6x 32gb memory cards and a whole bunch of smaller one's. I always look for more space. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacque31 10 Posted September 27, 2010 Me too, MsPlod. If I add all my hard disks together (as used in 7 machines and one portable disk), then I get 780GB. Memory of those machines add up to roughly 6GB... Well HDD's are so cheap now a days, why not get a 1TB or even 1.5. That will up your storage % in just one go! :amuse: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RISadler 10 Posted October 2, 2010 Well HDD's are so cheap now a days, why not get a 1TB or even 1.5. That will up your storage % in just one go! :amuse: My machines only have IDE controllers, except for one, which has a UW-SCSI controller (not used). I have yet to find somebody in SA that sells Linux compatible SATA (PCI) cards.:suspicious: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jphotography 10 Posted October 5, 2010 Oh boy a new box is alot of work, reason for me being so quiet, trying to upload all my programs. My laptop was send in and now needs to be formatted. Trying to upload my PS CS4 then I still need to get my CS5 upgrade somehow again. Downloads downloads and more downloads! Seems it never stops! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites