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  1. 3 points
    Well said Seeds and All. Ditto for Neil. Greed is like a vacuum-cleaner sticking its hose up its own arse.
  2. 2 points
    Why is it that so many individual sellers (and some buyers too) use the collective pronoun "we" in their interactions with customers when they are clearly people who are selling only for themselves and are replying in a personal capacity? I see it also in item descriptions and shipping tabs as well as other places outside of bob. To me it all seems rather pretentious, I sell for myself on bidorbuy and have no intention of claiming otherwise. Speaking for ourselves, we will never adopt such a policy.
  3. 2 points
    My wife and I have just returned from a road-trip through central Namibia. We stayed for 3 days in Swakopmund, a beautiful coastal town in the desert, established by German colonists in 1892. Even to this day, the German language is spoken by a large number of the townspeople. In an attempt to make Swakopmund more attractive for visitors, a competition was initiated in the early 1950s by the Swakopmund Municipality. This competition was won by the local dentist, Dr. Alfons Weber, and this led to the founding of the Swakopmund Museum in 1951(In 1931 Dr. Weber left his native Munich, Germany, to settle in the then Southwest Africa) I visited the museum on Monday and was greatly and positively surprised by its beautiful and informative displays. Even more surprising was the numismatic collection(s) hosted by the museum. The one display shows the coins, tokens & notes that circulated in the old days in South West Africa (present-day Namibia) including Paul Kruger Z.A.R. coins and notes – I did not know that they circulated as far north in Africa as this. The second display shows medals and medallions – mostly of German origin - a truly stunning collection. The third display shows shipwreck coins and related maritime artifacts: - the Namibian “skeleton coast” is notorious for its abundance of shipwrecks, some dating back to the 1500s when the Portuguese seafarers were travelling around the Cape of Good Hope in their trade-voyages with the East. I would recommend this museum to anyone interested in history and especially numismatics.
  4. 2 points
    The coins all have messages & themes regarding empty promises like freedom for this and rights for that etc etc. It's a pity the SA Mint don't issue a coin with the message "STOP CORRUPTION" and let the government use the income of the coin-sales to actually do something about their endless empty promises ...
  5. 2 points
    Vinyl Lady.....sadly I agree. For many of us it is the end of one selling era, but the start of another.
  6. 1 point
    This is true in all instances, with marketing the key creating labels and crazes of all sorts. With a slack economy such as we have at the moment, collectables seems to take a back seat, even with many the low priced items around. But I guess it also shows that the international market is not as big in our collectables as we would like to believe. For instance yesterday a copy of Rev Dower's book, in very good condition and with the Griqua Note in place, sold for $473 .00 (+-R6 600.00) including commission & VAT. I thought this was a very good price. The SA Mint thinking is marketing the Mandela series knowing that it is an item that sits well with tourism and locals, all the while "exaggerating the significance". From a business point of view, what's wrong with that. The irony here is that a socialist leaning government is putting capitalism to good use. The Mint issues local coinage with designs that promote the political landscape of the day on order from the Reserve Bank. As a manufacturer then, is it their place to actively promote past issues.
  7. 1 point
    Even when i select View Desktop Site it still takes me back to the Buyers page
  8. 1 point
    Firstly, if you read correctly i said some seller on BOB are still charging R99 for shipping, nowhere did i say it was less than R99 Secondly, it was one package. two bags, one inside the other. One whole package under 1kg, from the same seller, at the same time together. (not sure how else to exp[lain this. If you condone the charge of R220 for these items (as i have received), then that is your right, i was never telling you cannot charge what you want to charge, i was merely stating that sellers are making profit off postage. You are correct that i should have checked the shipping before the time, that was my mistake, will not do that again. In saying that, you are giving sellers the right to charge what ever they want IF they get away with it? Shifting the blame is taking from the wrong doing that is happening.
  9. 1 point
    THANK YOU NEVER before have I had such speedy service. Bought item at 15:30 on 30/05/2019 and received in good order on 31/05/2019 at 08:35! Awesome shoutout to BidorBuy
  10. 1 point
    Looking at the metal content of south african "coppers" it's clear that prior to 1942 these coins had a much higher content of tin , therefore making them bronze coinage ( Copper 0.955, Tin 0.030, Zinc 0.015 ) after 1942 much less tin ( Copper 0.950, Tin 0.005, Zinc 0.045 ) and prior to 1937 bronze coinage was "blackened" by the mint.
  11. 1 point
    And that is exactly the point, how can any one culture, or nation disregard the past. In our case, from pre-colonisation to colonisation, from concentration camps to apartheid to now. All of these events are portrayed by way of collectables, be it coins, beads, art , or vuvuzela's. The current mood of wanting to ban everything to do with colonialism and apartheid is naive. The next generation may not be interested in collecting pre 1994 items, but why deny them these items if someday they prefer to collect them. P.S. Judging by testrarossa's post, it might be the only thing left to collect, as that R5 vault looks like a hot one in Dubai.
  12. 1 point
    I think that what was in the past was in the past. Apartheid had a horrific effect on the majority of the population, with the bitter fruit being that the pendulum has now swung the other way and today post-apartheid has seen the legal marginalisation of the minority. To my mind, two wrongs have never made a right. The old South African flag is meaningless to me and many others, and I do not see any reason to either defend it or to obliterate its presence everywhere. However, this flag was the symbol of the State of a time which is now history. One cannot teach the children of today regarding the terrible wrongs that were done under apartheid if facts and features of that era are hidden in a fog of Orwellian knowing-ignorance and forgetfulness. Re coins and notes (and stamps), they do not harm anybody. Add the presence of the old flag on such numismatic material and you have a simple curiosity, a symbol of a dreadful past out of the ashes of which rose the hopes of an entire nation for a bright new future - free of the shackles of racism and discrimination and a wish for prosperity for all. So "no" - I do not see anything wrong in collecting such numismatic material.....
  13. 1 point
    Nice write-up, Sounds like you had a good time.
  14. 1 point
    http://www.msn.com/en-za/news/offbeat/immaculate-gold-coin-worth-%c2%a3100000-emblazoned-with-the-face-of-the-first-brexiteer-who-took-britain-out-of-the-roman-empire-in-293ad-is-discovered-by-an-amateur-metal-detectorist/ar-BBVFn9Q?li=BBqg6Q6&ocid=iehp
  15. 1 point
    Awesome!! I love buying the old roman etc coins when I go to the UK. However,this one is beyond my means
  16. 1 point
    How can seller Happy Deals say no stock on won auction , when he still has the same item open on other auctions
  17. 1 point
    I have had endless problems with Paxi with the collection of parcels. Will no longer be using them
  18. 1 point
    Good day I've done a little video on my experiences buying and selling coins for those less familiar with bidorbuy.
  19. 1 point
    I would contact Wendy Knowler from Consumer Watch. She does alot of this type of intervention when a person is being treated totally unfairly in a transaction and is an expert consumer journalist (she is unbias whether you are the seller or a buyer, only looking at who is right in the situation and who is wrong). She runs columns in many top newspapers as well as does radio spots. You can contact her at consumer@knowler.co.za. I am certain she will take Bid or Buy to the docks for this type of behaviour that we all have been experiencing in the past year or so.
  20. 1 point
    Amazing that when this was introduced it bought 2 toilet rolls and a loaf of bread. Today you battle to find one in UNC for under R500.
  21. 1 point
    Well Robert ... Why make them millionaires if you can make them trillionaires a few times over ...
  22. 1 point
    "Because of the total devastation of the twin towers there is virtually nothing left. The few items that have been salvaged will be part of the memorial at the site of the former towers. But remarkably there was a Comex vault located in the basement of the World Trade Center that contained around two hundred million dollars of gold and silver bullion that survived. On the night of November 1, 2001 as the work proceeded on the ground zero clean up the workers made their way to the vault and with little fanfare a caravan of Brinks armored trucks hauled the bullion to another Comex vault. There were Silver, Gold & Platinum American Eagles as well as a few South African KRUGER RANDS, CANADIAN MAPLE LEAVES, AUSTRALIAN NUGGETS, BRITISH SOVEREIGNS, MEXICAN PESOS & A FEW OTHERS. Some of the silver eagles and a small amount of gold were sent directly to the Professional Coin Grading Service. These coins were sealed in their patented tamper resistant holders with a certificate of authentication certifying that the coin is one of the few that was excavated from the World Trade Center site."
  23. 1 point
    It's ridiculous, they even charge commissions on Pargo, which is a fixed amount that Bidorbuy decides on, those kinds of shipping should be excluded - there is no way anyone can profit off Pargo shipping. They charge just about identical fees to ebay now but with just about no sellers or buyers protection and no advanced integration of shipping and tracking and all the other things eBay has implemented to make buying and selling easier. Considering that their backend costs must be significantly lower than ebay, there is no doubt they just decided to price gouge. The new fees make platforms like Gumtree or Facebook so much more attractive for higher value items - sell an item for R2000 + R200 shipping, if you sell that on Facebook you are making an extra R200 profit, no brainer and no bobPay bs where you have to pay R6 to extract your own money out of Bidorbuy.
  24. 1 point
    Awesome Robert. I have only been collecting for about 4 years or so. I started out with coins, but then discovered all these beautiful Banknotes that we have and that we are doing so little promoting. It is just another feeling holding a William Clegg 5 Pounds! Also I find that it is easier to get good quality coins from 1902 than to get a Gouvernements Note from that era?
  25. 1 point
    At last I have found it. This is a scan of the common first day cover showing the various designs, including the humpback R2. I do not have the scarce white first day cover, and was wondering whether this carries the same R2 design. .
  26. 1 point
    Interesting. Thanks to all the participants. This can only be good for SA coin collecting.
  27. 1 point
    Many of us are still searching for the person who designed the original Griqua coins. From old posts on this forum ... "Thomas Halliday was the die-sinker for the Griqua coinage, but most probably not the maker. He might have designed them and he made the dies but for their mintage, one probably has to look elsewhere. In my view, someone like Sir Edward Thomason is a good candidate (he struck silver coinage for Africa in the same period) and also resided at Birmingham at the time - he and Halliday worked closely together. Halliday and Thomason frequently worked together – the one as designer (die-sinker) and the other as the actual minter." But the jury is still out...
  28. 1 point
    Good day A friend at work was kind enough to present me with my third 2018 Madiba R5.
  29. 1 point
    Thanks for informing us Pierre. I myself would never have known as I hardly used to read the NGC newsletters. Well done Adrian. You truly have some stunning coins in your collection. Thanks for preserving our history! And thanks for helping keep SA coin collecting in the limelight, where it belongs. I am proud to be called an SA collector.
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  31. 1 point
    Well done Adrian. You a beacon of light to us newly aspiring numismatists.
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  33. 1 point
    Congratulations Adrian. Not many people will be able to accomplish this feat. It is great for South African Numismatics. A great achievement. Well done ”Give That Man A Bells”
  34. 1 point
    Hi Robert, A verbatim quote from the South African Reserve Bank Amendment Act, 1997 in particular Section 34 Offences and penalties. (1) Subject to the provisions of section 2 of the Prevention of Counterfeiting of Currency Act, 1965 (Act 16 of 1965), any person who- (a) forges, alters or unlawfully issues a note of the Bank or something purporting to be a note of the Bank, or any coin; (b) utters, tenders or accepts any such note or a coin which has been forged, altered or unlawfully issued, knowing it to be forged, altered or unlawfully issued; (c) without the authority of the Bank, engraves or makes upon any material whatsoever any words, figures, letters, marks, lines or devices the print whereof resembles in whole or in part any words, figures, letters, marks, lines or devices peculiar to and used in or upon any note of the Bank or any coin which is legal tender; (d) without the authority of the Bank, uses or knowingly has in his possession any material whatsoever upon which has been engraved or made any such words, figures, letters, marks, lines or devices; (e) contravenes the provisions of section 33; (f) wilfully defaces, soils or damages any note of the Bank, or writes or places any drawing thereon or attaches thereto anything in the nature of an advertisement, or wilfully defaces or damages any coin which is legal tender; (g) removes from the premises where coins are manufactured under this Act, without lawful authority or excuse, any matrix, master punch, die, collar, piercing and cutting tool, pattern or mould, or any other tool, machine, engine, instrument or thing used or employed in or in connection with the coining of coins, or any useful part of the several objects aforesaid, or any coin or bullion; (h) is found in possession of any blank or defective coin of the size, shape and metal composition of any coin of which the coining is authorized by this Act, and is unable to account satisfactorily for such possession; (i) fraudulently inserts or uses in a machine that vends merchandise or services or collects fares or tolls, anything that is intended to pass for the coin or the token of value that the machine is designed to receive in exchange for the merchandise, service, fare or toll, as the case may be; (j) sells, exchanges or otherwise disposes of any metal reproduction of any gold coin contemplated in Schedule 2, or uses the word 'Krugerrand', 'Natura' or 'Protea', or any derivative thereof or any combination thereof with any other word in the furtherance of the sale, exchange or disposal in any other manner of such a reproduction or of any metal article of commerce; [Para. (j) substituted by s. 10 of Act 2 of 1996.] (k) without the written approval of the Department of Finance, intentionally destroys, melts down, dissolves in any dissolvent, breaks up or damages a coin that has been issued under section 11 of the South African Mint and Coinage Act, 1964 (Act 78 of 1964), or under section 14 of this Act, or removes any such coin out of the Republic, or causes or permits it to be so removed, with the purpose of so dealing with it or causing it to be so dealt with outside the Republic; or (l) sells or disposes of any coin issued as contemplated in paragraph (k), knowing or suspecting that such coin is to be dealt with in a manner constituting an offence under paragraph (k), shall be guilty of an offence and liable on conviction- Kind regards Andries
  35. 1 point
    Coin Mampara of the Year 2018 The phrase “Mampara of the Year” was “coined” by the Sunday Times. The “award” is given to people that just did not “Made the Grade” during the past year. In coin-collecting terms, I would ALSO like to award a special numismatic “Mampara of the Year Award” to … Why do they deserve this special honor? On their website, they are currently offering some graded Mandela Birthday Coins (Minted in 2008) MS 66 = Price R 4 500.00 MS 67 = Price R 15 000.00 MS 68 = Price R 250 000.00 MS 69 = Price R 3 Million As an example, the last MS67 example, offered by them for R15 000, sold on BidorBuy this week for …… scroll down . . . . . . R71 – Yes only R71 O Boy – what a Mampara! Enjoy the upcoming holiday season and I wish you all a wonderful 2019 … Pierre & Family
  36. 1 point
    It would be nice if there could be some sort of indication that messages sent via the bob messaging system have been read by the receiver. Like the blue tick you get on WhatsApp. OLX also show messages as read.
  37. 1 point
    For some reason, a major work by a well-known researcher & author on South African Numismatics of the previous century, Matthy Esterhuysen, is not included in most summaries of South African numismatic publications. Maybe because it was only published in Afrikaans in those days. (It is a large 185-page hardcover coffee-table sized book) It is called “Ons Gelderfenis” (Our Coin Heritage) published in 1980. (Amongst other works, Matthy Esterhuysen also wrote the book The Burgerspond – South Africa’s first Gold Coin that was published in 1976) Regarding the Griqua coinage, she notes some interesting information that I was never aware of… Firstly, a few years ago on this forum, Professor Francois Malan and I had a discussion to whom the “Roos Collection of Griqua Coins” might relate to after I stated the following. “As a matter of interest, in 1940 some Griqua pieces were examined by J.T. Becklake, who was the last Deputy Master of the Royal Mint Pretoria & the First Director of the South African Mint. His findings were published years later in July 1955 in the first issue of De Nummis, the journal of the Transvaal Numismatic Society. He compared the weights, diameters and thickness of the Griqua token coins that were in the collections of the Mint in Pretoria, Spink in London, the Africana Museum in Johannesburg and a private Transvaal collector, Mr. Roos, to whom he refers to as the late Mr. Roos, who must have died before 1940. Spink only had a quarter penny and 5-pence piece in their collection (stock) but both the Pretoria Mint and the Africana museum in Johannesburg, as well as the late Mr. Roos, had examples of all four the Griqua coins (copper ¼ and ½ pieces and silver 5 and 10 pence pieces) Becklake specifically states that the copper farthing and half-penny in the Roos collection were “worn pieces” as were the obverse of the quarter penny in the Pretoria Mint’s collection” Professor Malan responded… “The Mr Roos you referring to is probably the famous politician Tielman Roos. For the Huisgenoot of 2 June 1933 he wrote an article on Suid-Afrikaanse Munstukke under the name J. De V. Roos (his correct initials). The editor mentioned that the author possessed one of the most interesting collections of South African coins.” We now actually have a definite answer … On page 59 of “Ons Gelderfenis” (Our Coin Heritage) by Matthy Esterhuysen, she states that (my translation)... “A Set of Griqua coins was donated to the museum by Mr. J de Villiers Roos, former Controller and Auditor-General of the Union of South Africa. The 5d piece was bought by him in 1925 on a London auction for £5, an amount that was very high even in those days” (My own research shows that this person was born in 1869 and died in 1940) Thus NOT the well-known politician and Justice Minister from 1924 to 1929, Tielman Roos (1879-1935) that Professor Malan speculated the person was. He and Tielman were not even brothers (but they could have been cousins). Another interesting observation is that Esterhuysen states that she knows of only 4 collections (of which the Roos collection was one) who had all 4 denominations of the Griqua coinage included (thus a complete Griqua collection) but she mentions that a few more collectors had single pieces. Esterhuysen mentions that the two copper issues are scarcer that the two silver issues, but now, many years later, we know that that is not necessarily true – my last take on them a few years back shows the combined NGC and PCGS population statistics for 37 copper pieces and only 31 silver pieces.
  38. 1 point
    Never mind it was like that for a couple of hours then worked again. It happened when I clicked on the link"Upload all"--I just got no response
  39. 1 point
    I have seen the same thing since the upgrade in March. Buyers are able to rate or change ratings even a year after the purchase. It is locked on the order itself, but I suspect they are able to rate/change raing by using the email where they originally get a reminder from BoB to rate the purchases. If it is not that, then I don't know how they do it but they can do it since the new update. BoB must investigate and solve this as there is absolutely zero justification for a buyer to leave a negative rating a year after receiving the item. That will mean all sellers must offer lifetime guaratees on products regardless of how they are treated by buyers, or risk unjust negative ratings ages after the sale is completed. BoB please update us on how this is being done by buyers, and what you plan to do to fix this issue???
  40. 1 point
    Quote "Buyer purchases item in December 2017, but places negative rating in October 2018 with the reason being that item was dead on arrival." How is this possible when we cannot rate after 3 months--Look at any item sold 3 or more months ago and the rating link is closed
  41. 1 point
    Please Be Careful With A Person Selling Art By The Bame Of Paranovalty, He Is The Brother Of A Mrs. Rosa Jonker, That Was Linked To Vader And Had A Case Of Forgery Against Her.
  42. 1 point
    There are almost certainly somewhat fewer than 1000 1965 Afrikaans cents but given that the collector base (as opposed to financial buyer "investors") in your country might number only 10,000, it might be enough for slightly less than one in 10, not exactly that difficult for most existing collectors to acquire it. It's actually a far more common and available coin in the quality most collectors want to buy than most Union and many ZAR. It is a relatively scarce coin in absolute numbers but it's a narrow scarcity, as there are many more with the English legend which makes it a minor sub-type similar to a die variety. It is also one of the most overpriced coins in the entire South African series given it's relative availability and it isn't in the same league as the 1931 silver. What other coins do you have in mind?
  43. 1 point
    Totally true-the inevitable is happening and combined with weak economy and limited spending power of buyers its become tough with the new fees-BOB were warned about this when these fees were implemented but they took no notice-one only has to look at the crazy wed listings which was BOB biggest moneyspinner and u can see the listings are half what they used to be!!Only on month end wed do u have the listings up again-we sellers must cut somewhere to survive and thats on the listings as we cannot afford the new rates plus pay for enhancements etc.-this leads to fewer listings,fewer sellers and of course fewer buyers as the range of items available drops and the buyers serach elswhere. IF BOB had balls they would admit this has been a horror exercise and implement strategic decisons to reverse this trend,but im not holding my breath. Also there is no marketing of any sort to try and help sellers etc,no ideas at all-its just take ,take and take,with giving very little back. Many of us helped build this platform and its sad to see the demise of this once proud and vibrant e commerce site.... YES the extra fees and final order value fees helped short term but i am sure by now its evident that its not sustainable and although i am not privy to the figures i am sure the income has not increased for bob but in fact decreased in spite of the huge fees increase. neil
  44. 1 point
    I have been following this thread since it started. All I can say is that bidorbuy has lost another seller. I am sure that there are many more that have left the site without saying a word. Nothing that sellers can say will make them change their minds, the only thing that might make a difference is if they lose sellers. On the other hand, thhat just might cause the site to shut down completely. Since the new fees, it just isn't worth my while to continue on this site.
  45. 1 point
    Hi I am hoping I am doing something wrong, I am looking for some older gaming goods such as for example, PS1 games, old 3DFX video cards, etc. Now if I search for these items, I get close to 2 million results that match and I have no idea why this is. It almost seems as if it is searching for "ps" and "1" separately and returning results that contain either or searching for "ps1" in quotes also does not solve the issue, is there some other way to get past this? Thanks
  46. 1 point
    Good Day. Putting aside the ludicrous rise in fees that I am sure is going to infuriate all of BoB's sellers and lose BoB many many sellers who bring in the money for them, clarification is required for a specific clause in the fee article; Final order value fee. The final order value fee is the fee adjustment that is charged to a seller account, calculated on the difference between the "Final order value" and the "Item sales value", multiplied by the lowest category success fee percentage, which is currently 5.75% excluding VAT. Examples: The item sales value is R1,000 for an item sold in the Music & Instruments category. Music & Instruments success fee is 5.75% of R1,000. Success fee = R57.50 + 14% VAT = R65.55 incl. VAT. The buyer makes a payment that totals R1,120. The 5.75% final order value fee is applied to R120 (the difference between the sales amount of R1,000 and the total amount paid of R1,120). Final order value fee = R6.90 + 14% VAT = R7.87 Total fees paid to bidorbuy on the final order amount of R1,120 = R65.55 + R7.87 = R73.42 incl. VAT Now, from how I read this (and I must wonder if this is very vague on purpose), is that the "difference between the "Final order value" and the "Item sales value" is actually the shipping cost for the order. In the above example, the item sale value is R1000 and the buyer has paid R1120, meaning the extra R120 is the cost of the shipping for the item. It is not very clear to be honest, but if the above assumption is correct, I assume again that the sellers will be able to include the "fee" that is charged on the shipping amount to their shipping expenses? Sellers may charge the cost of shipping according to BoB policy, and if the shipping fee is being taxed (which basically is what this is, a new tax, as if our government doesn't screw us enough with taxes already), that tax is part of the shipping expense. Or does BoB want us sellers to lose even more money by making a loss on the shipping because some of the shipping fee is now going to BoB's greedy coffers (this is on top of the huge extra amount we will already be losing with the luidicrous increase in fees). This is fast going to become unsutainable to the majority of BoB sellers who already operate on very low profit margins. But BoB needs to remember, if you put us out of business with ridiculous price increases, who do you think will follow us into bankruptcy? BoB themselves will follow. Without sellers BoB will vanish into the past. Very sad that the greed has come to this. I think it may be time for a tech-savvy member of the BoB community to program a competitor auction site for all us hard working sellers to come to when we can no longer sustain these inflated fees
  47. 1 point
    Hello All. I am getting frustrated, due to time constraints, at the lack of precision when doing any type of search. For example, if I typed "Fitness watch" and thereafter I choose the lowest price option(or any other option), there are a few hundred unrelated items displayed on screen. Please, try to fix this issue or provide suggestions to overcome this problem. Thanks for a wonderful forum Beemaz.
  48. 1 point
    Same happened to me.. Same seller..Happydeals..They rarely had stock on items which sold for cheap. On 80% of all my orders with them, they either didn't have stock or they shipped 3-4 weeks late.... Don't rate them badly. From revenge,they rated me more than 100 negative rating and refused to subsequently send my items. In stead, I was refunded on numerous orders.. My worst experience on bidorbuy by far.. not sure how they could get away with it for so long??? I would be gone if Bidorbuy did not remove those unfair ratings.Have you queried this with Bob?
  49. 1 point
    Same happened to me.. Same seller..Happydeals..They rarely had stock on items which sold for cheap. On 80% of all my orders with them, they either didn't have stock or they shipped 3-4 weeks late.... Don't rate them badly. From revenge,they rated me more than 100 negative rating and refused to subsequently send my items. In stead, I was refunded on numerous orders.. My worst experience on bidorbuy by far.. not sure how they could get away with it for so long???
  50. 1 point
    PayPal is very convenient for buyers but can be a nightmare for sellers. I would recommend the following two payment gateways: Skrill (formally MoneyBookers) - http://www.skrill.com PayFast - http://www.payfast.co.za Both are easy to use and setup, easy for buyers to make payments, and offer exceptional protection for both buyers and sellers.
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